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4 years 3 months ago #69436 by Sonet
Hi very new to the hobby and have a C Rose and Mex Redknee that has not fed in 7 days? What do i do?

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4 years 3 months ago - 4 years 3 months ago #69437 by Uncle Charlie
First of all, welcome to the hobby and to the forum.

Ok... we have all been through the same stress when we just started and some of us still go through it...

Sit back and relax... it colder so tarantulas dont need to eat as much.

The Brachypelma smithi (mexican red knee) could be in pre molt... then they wont always eat.

The Grammostola rosea (chilean rose) is known to go on hunger strikes/fasting. The longest recorded fast was over 2 years.

When we go into the colder months I only feed my tarantulas every second week. It is said that we have overweight tarantulas in the hobby.

Go read the following by Stanley Schultz and read all the links to... you will find valuable information in there.

Must Read by Stanley Schultz
people.ucalgary.ca/~schultz/spiders.html

Stan's Rant by Stanley Schultz
people.ucalgary.ca/~schultz/stansrant.html

Tarantula Myths by Stanley Schultz
people.ucalgary.ca/~schultz/myths00.html

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4 years 3 months ago - 4 years 3 months ago #69438 by Jake
welcome to the hobby and the site.

How big are your spiders?

Nothing to worry about, one of the reasons for spiders not eating is pre-molt.
Your spiders will be fine if they don't eat for the next week or so.
As long as you provide them with water.

My spiders only get feed every 15 days, sometimes up to 30 days.

So give them another week and try again.
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4 years 3 months ago #69440 by Stanley A. Schultz

Sonet wrote: Hi very new to the hobby and have a C Rose and Mex Redknee that has not fed in 7 days? What do i do?

STAN'S NEWBIE INTRODUCTION

DID YOU HEAR THAT? THAT WAS THE NEWBIE ALARM!

WELCOME TO THE HOBBY!

WELCOME TO THIS FORUM!


:woohoo:

Okay, so we're all newbies, often for a long time. We've done what everybody else does: Read all the Internet care sheets. Listened attentively to everything the expert down at the local pet shop told us. Wasted a lot of money on things we shouldn't have. Incorporated a lot of things that were useless or even dangerous. Stressed out over meaningless details while ignoring the real issues. Way overkill. That's not a criticism; I'm just delineating the problems. It's just the way humanoids are, I suppose.

We can fix all that.

There's nothing wrong with being a newbie as long as you do something about it. After 45 years of keeping tarantulas, I still consider myself a newbie. We can trace a tarantula's ancestry back over HALF A BILLION YEARS. They've had that long to develop and fine tune their lives and lifestyles. They're incredibly complex and detailed creatures. We're gonna be playing catch-up (that's the newbie part) for a long, LONG, LONG time!

The first thing you need to understand is the KISS principle , not to infer that you're stupid. Inexperienced, maybe. Stupid, I don't think so. As proof, you can speak, read, and write English (arguably one of the more difficult languages on Planet Earth), and use a computer just fine. But, I digress. As long as you supply the basic necessities of life for your captive tarantula, the less you incorporate into its cage and care regimen, the less there is to go tragically haywire . KISS, indeed!

The second thing you need to understand is that tarantulas are like no other creature you've ever kept or even heard of before. All the ingrained assumptions and prejudices that you've been taught since childhood don't apply, and may even be dangerous to them. They're neither tropical fish, reptiles, canaries, nor gerbils, and you don't take care of them like any of those animals. One of the biggest problems with newbies is trying to get them to abandon all their prejudices and begin to look at the world from the vastly alien perspective of a huge, fuzzy spider.

FASTEN YOUR SEAT BELT.
MAKE SURE YOUR SEAT BACK AND TRAY TABLE ARE SECURED IN THEIR UPRIGHT POSITIONS.
THIS IS GOING TO BE ONE H*** OF A RIDE!

Because tarantulas are so bizarre and unique, you have a lot of homework to do. To begin, you need to read the following webpages.

1) Stan's Rant . ESPECIALLY, READ THE PART ABOUT NOT TRUSTING ANYTHING A PET SHOP TELLS YOU! AND ESPECIALLY, STUDY THE FOUR RECOMMENDED BOOKS.

2) Myths... . Read the entire webpage tree.

3) Care and Husbandry of the Chilean Rose Tarantula . IF YOU HAVE A WILD CAUGHT CHILEAN ROSE TARANTULA (Grammostola rosea) YOU NEED TO READ THIS WEBPAGE! If you don't have a Chilean rose you can safely ignore this one for now. Just remember that it's here for whenever you do get a rose. Or, you can read it out of curiosity. It contains a lot of hints applicable to other arid species.

IMPORTANT NOTE: The comments and instructions in Care and Husbandry of the Chilean Rose Tarantula are applicable only to wild caught G. rosea. CAGE BRED AND RAISED G. rosea are no different than any other captive tarantula and are best cared for just like any other arid species. See Growing Your Own for further information.

4) Substrate . Because you need to know about this very basic, underlying part of a tarantula's existence.

5) Growing Your Own . This is a global, game plan for caring for your newfound little buddy. You need to figure out where it is in the vast scheme of growth and development, then start taking care of it properly from that point onward.

6) If you can possibly spare the time, at least skim through the entire Spiders, Calgary website.

Lastly, be aware that this system is not the only one available. Neither is it necessarily the best one. You'll see and hear all sorts of other ideas as you go along. But, Marguerite and I have spent decades selling tarantulas to all kinds of people of all ages, and fine tuned this system so as to make it pretty much as bullet proof as it can get. Use our system at first, until you begin to understand these weird animals. Then maybe you can experiment with some of the not-so-conservative approaches recommended by others.

You need to learn to look at the world from the vastly alien perspective of a huge, fuzzy spider. READ THE BOOKS! READ THE WEBPAGES!

___________________________________________

Sonet wrote: ... have a C Rose and Mex Redknee that has not fed in 7 days? ...


Tarantulas only need to eat once a week or even less. Sometimes much less. A good rule for an adult tarantula is to feed them one (1) fully grown cricket per week, or four or five per month. You can feed them on just about any schedule that suits you as long as you stick to that level of feeding on average.

Very young tarantulas that are still growing rapidly may be fed much more, but as their growth rate diminishes you should reduce their food intake. All this is explained in several of the webpages above, and in the four recommended books.

Sonet wrote: ... What do i do?


Relax. Chill.

Go to the kitchen. Grab your favorite glass, cup, mug, stein, or flagon and fill it with your favorite beverage.

Grab a small rug, slip your favorite CD in the player or turn on your iThingie.

Go into the tarantula's room, spread the rug on the floor and practice your favorite form of meditation with your spider.

Tarantulas meditate a lot; so should you! Their Lotus Position is pretty much unbelievable.

There now. Doesn't that feel better already?

:laugh:

Best of luck. Remember, your little 8-legged Yoda is going to be giving you pop quizzes daily!

The Tarantula Whisperers!
Stan Schultz
Marguerite Schultz
Co-authors of the TARANTULA KEEPER'S GUIDE, now in its third edition!
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4 years 3 months ago #69455 by Sonet
Thank you so much. I will read all the links.

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4 years 3 months ago #69519 by Lloyd Liebenberg
It still amazes me when Uncle Stan pops out the woodwork for newbies on a South African forum. Thanks for always taking the time to reassure newcomers Stan, it is much appreciated!! :rock

I was just as nervous when I bought my first T last year. After reading first your website and then your book really helped me to stop being such a papa bear and fussing all the time.
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