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Who has a permit and what permit do you have?


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11 years 11 months ago #47119 by Ceratogyrus
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Don't think there is much point to showing the actual permit? I can check on the website what permits are available, but guess it will be: collecting, transport, keeping, breeding permit, etc.
What the permit allows will obviously depend on the permit, which is pretty self explanatory. Keeping = permit to keep spiders, etc.
There should not be a major difference between permits from different provinces I would think.
Any other questions that we may be able to answer?

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11 years 11 months ago - 11 years 11 months ago #47120 by Dimitri Kambas
I agree Hendrik, i didn't want you to post your permit, only what types of permits there are so we can all know the differences if you know what i mean?
Last edit: 11 years 11 months ago by Dimitri Kambas.

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11 years 11 months ago #47124 by Ceratogyrus
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Does my post answer your questions Dimitri?

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11 years 11 months ago #47125 by Dimitri Kambas

Ceratogyrus wrote: Does my post answer your questions Dimitri?


Not quite, i would like to see official documents that state which species are illegal and also what every permit covers. I cant really find the information i want on their website.

I just want to compile a section on this site that will cover all these questions etc.

For example, does your permit cover exactly the same as Hendriks? If someone in the Western Cape gets a permit do the species differentiate?

People keep asking me why the Pterinochilus murinus (Usambara Baboon) is illegal as it is from different country.

Am i making sense or just repeating previous topics lol :blush:

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11 years 11 months ago #47133 by Ceratogyrus
Replied by Ceratogyrus on topic Re: Who has a permit and what permit do you have?
You are repeating previous topics. I would tell you to use the search function, but ill repeat myself, as long as you promise to sticky this thread somewhere. :)
The protected spiders (as well as any other protected plants, animals, etc) can be found in the Threatened Or Protected Species (TOPS) list. Sure it has been posted on this site more than once, but can look for it in the morning if you cant find it. It lists Ceratogyrus, Harpactira and Pterinochilus as the protected genera (All known species in these genera). Since the list was set up, new genera have been described from SA, so genera like Augacephalus and Idiothele have been added to it (As well as all species in these genera obviously). These spiders require permits to catch, transport, keep, breed, etc.
When you apply for a permit, you need to apply for a specific species or a number of species of the same genus or of different genera but only related to one activity. You would also have to state how many of each species you have, will catch, etc. Therefore you could have a permit to KEEP for example 5 x A.junodi and 2 x C.darlingi but if you wanted to catch these species, you would have to apply for a COLLECTING permit to catch them. Each activity (keeping, catching, transport, etc) requires its own permit.
Hendrik and my permit would differ because I have a permit for specific number of species as well as a specific number of spiders of each species. If I were to add something to my collection, I would be over my allocated number of spiders allowed of that species, and my permit would become invalid and I would have to apply for a 'new' permit. That is why I cannot just accept peoples OBT's as I would have to reapply for my permit each time. If a spider were to die, I would also have to reapply.
Pterinochilus murinus is illegal, because the genus Pterinochilus is on the TOPS list.
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11 years 11 months ago #47136 by Ceratogyrus
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The TOPS list can be found here: www.tarantulas.co.za/forum/tarantula-gen...ed-species-tops-list
Not sure if cascade changed the spelling accidentally on the list, but it should read Harpactira and not Xarpactira. The spelling on my document says Harpactira.

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