At last some informative information. Thanks Taki. I especially liked the comment that they will part their fangs or just bear them. I thinks that's a good indication to watch for. I also watched Ray's video's and I must say, well done Ray, very informative and you come across much better and friendlier than on the written forum.
I found the information I was looking for when you tried to coach the pocey out onto your hand in the first video. You kept on saying that you don't want to stress it, but went on nonetheless, allowing us to see how she warns by lifting the front legs and resisted climbing onto your hand. I would have thought the leg lifting was just the T feeling where to climb, so VALUABLE information there !
This is what I was after, when everything went haywire on the thread. Thanks guys.
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