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15 years 3 weeks ago #29520 by Brendan
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So I recieved my first Incei's today but one problem has risen. From unpacking them to introducing them into a new encloser is obviously stressful, now one sling has molted. How bad is it for all this movement so close to molting and then to be in a random unwebbed enviroment for the hardening process?

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15 years 3 weeks ago #29525 by Brendan
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She molted badly, It came off completely but so did her 2nd right leg. It looks like it was a solid break from the carapace, im not sure if bleeding is an issue

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15 years 3 weeks ago #29526 by Bradley
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Samething happened to my incei.. About 4 hours ago. I was rehousing. Legion suggested I use super glue but I couldn't get some so I left it and it seemed to have stoped bleeding and then started spinning webs all over.

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15 years 3 weeks ago #29529 by Fuzzy Bear
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Firstly, apologies for not replying to your chat last night Clown, went to bed early... again... :blush:

It is very unlikely that the "transit" would have a detrimental affect on the spider. As stated before, I have witnessed spiders molt inside the transit container. As for the "new" environment and the lack of a molting mat, again should not pose much of a problem. Although not ideal, the spider should be able to complete a successful molt, even in its new home. If the spider is/was well hydrated throughout the previous instar and into pre molt, it should not loose any limbs. The new environment should have no affect on the hardening of the new exuvium either. H incei are touch little fellas, and with the exception of only a handful of species, so are all Tarantulas. It SHOULD be fine, IF it does not loose to much hemolymph... which brings me to the next issue.

The hemolymph has coagulative properties. When exposed to the environment (outside the body), it will clot and block the wound, leaking will stop as a result. The clotted area will harden, and remain in this hardened state throughout the instar, until a new limb is formed and the spider molts again. In this case, such a wound would be miniscule and almost impossible to mend yourself... which brings me to the next issue.

Superglue has been known to seal off wounds on spiders, BUT, it is a very drastic measure and should ALWAYS be used as a last resort. It is close to impossible to use this method on a post molt sling, unless you work under a microscope, and even then you have little chance of applying this medium accurately. Chances are more harm will be done in even attempting this intervention... which brings me to the next issue.

Superglue has been used to mend a ruptured abdomen after an accidental fall, an injured carapace or broken leg, BUT again, as a drastic last resort AND on spiders that have reached a size considerably larger than a sling. Superglue has very toxic fumes when applied and in a closed, less ventilated environment would almost certainly kill any spider within minutes. PLEASE do not advise anyone or attempt the use of this method at random. It is very case specific and should be done with considerable care.

Please update on the progress of your H incei...

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15 years 3 weeks ago #29531 by robc
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Scarab wrote: Firstly, apologies for not replying to your chat last night Clown, went to bed early... again... :blush:

It is very unlikely that the "transit" would have a detrimental affect on the spider. As stated before, I have witnessed spiders molt inside the transit container. As for the "new" environment and the lack of a molting mat, again should not pose much of a problem. Although not ideal, the spider should be able to complete a successful molt, even in its new home. If the spider is/was well hydrated throughout the previous instar and into pre molt, it should not loose any limbs. The new environment should have no affect on the hardening of the new exuvium either. H incei are touch little fellas, and with the exception of only a handful of species, so are all Tarantulas. It SHOULD be fine, IF it does not loose to much hemolymph... which brings me to the next issue.

The hemolymph has coagulative properties. When exposed to the environment (outside the body), it will clot and block the wound, leaking will stop as a result. The clotted area will harden, and remain in this hardened state throughout the instar, until a new limb is formed and the spider molts again. In this case, such a wound would be miniscule and almost impossible to mend yourself... which brings me to the next issue.

Superglue has been known to seal off wounds on spiders, BUT, it is a very drastic measure and should ALWAYS be used as a last resort. It is close to impossible to use this method on a post molt sling, unless you work under a microscope, and even then you have little chance of applying this medium accurately. Chances are more harm will be done in even attempting this intervention... which brings me to the next issue.

Superglue has been used to mend a ruptured abdomen after an accidental fall, an injured carapace or broken leg, BUT again, as a drastic last resort AND on spiders that have reached a size considerably larger than a sling. Superglue has very toxic fumes when applied and in a closed, less ventilated environment would almost certainly kill any spider within minutes. PLEASE do not advise anyone or attempt the use of this method at random. It is very case specific and should be done with considerable care.

Please update on the progress of your H incei...

Great info! I use liquid bandaid as it is a bit more plyable and less toxic but they both work....care must be taken not to get either in or around the booklungs.

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15 years 3 weeks ago #29580 by Brendan
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Thank you scarab, you truely are one helpfull guy :)

Ok so an update : When I removed the molt I noticed that a new leg was in the old molt so I thought that it was broken in half, but it was a clean break from the carapace so that would eliminate the need to use super glue to seal the wound. I dont want to move her to examine closer because she is a bit fragile right now.

I think she is going to be ok, I was mainly wondering about molting in a completely new enviroment, I have never had a leg break before but I knew from research that it is mostly ok, they do limb back

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