Yours looks fine Rozanne :thumbsup:

Hendrijs wrote: I'm quite concerned with the amount of mix bred Brachypelma emilia / boehmei that is in the SA hobby at the moment, especially with a couple of hobbyist trying to breed them. They must have somehow gotten sold off as Brachypelma emilia slings a couple of years ago and are all now reaching adulthood.

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One can clearly see the wrong coloration and markings.

I must have missed something here. What makes you think you're dealing with "untrue" or hybrid emilia? (Hint: I'm looking for hard scientific evidence here, not some hokey determination based on color or pattern.) Publications? Admissions by someone that they accidentally or intentionally sold hybrids without informing the buyers? Anything besides rumor?


Question your little 8-legged authorities!

Stan Schultz wrote:

Hendrijs wrote: I'm quite concerned with the amount of mix bred Brachypelma emilia / boehmei that is in the SA hobby at the moment, especially with a couple of hobbyist trying to breed them. They must have somehow gotten sold off as Brachypelma emilia slings a couple of years ago and are all now reaching adulthood.

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One can clearly see the wrong coloration and markings.

I must have missed something here. What makes you think you're dealing with "untrue" or hybrid emilia? (Hint: I'm looking for hard scientific evidence here, not some hokey determination based on color or pattern.) Publications? Admissions by someone that they accidentally or intentionally sold hybrids without informing the buyers? Anything besides rumor?


Question your little 8-legged authorities!

What makes you think they both true - Brachypelma emilia Stan?

Hendrijs wrote: ... What makes you think they both true - Brachypelma emilia Stan?

I'm not making any declarations about what's "true" and what's "not true" or "hybrid." Before I can even begin to consider such a topic, I need to know what the source of the allegation or presumption is. We'll devolve into the finer points of taxonomy after we establish whether it's a fair topic or a bogus rumor based on superficial evidence or uninformed presumption.

Stan Schultz wrote:

Hendrijs wrote: ... What makes you think they both true - Brachypelma emilia Stan?

I'm not making any declarations about what's "true" and what's "not true" or "hybrid." Before I can even begin to consider such a topic, I need to know what the source of the allegation or presumption is. We'll devolve into the finer points of taxonomy after we establish whether it's a fair topic or a bogus rumor based on superficial evidence or uninformed presumption.

So if I understand you correctly you not saying it's a "hybrid/mix species" NEITHER are you saying its a "true" spider. Still saying the same as page 209 of 1998 publication of your book. Because you ain't seen it, it doesn't exist.
Maybe you have more luck getting answers from Rick C. West regarding this topic. See his site - Brachypelma emilia X Brachypelma boehmei, female - pet trade hybrid

Stan I see where you're coming from but REALISTICALLY what would you say that would be here in South Africa? I personally would have to agree that it would mosty likely be a hybrid. :starwars: :laugh: