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How long till a "sp" becomes described?


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14 years 1 month ago #57764 by Dimitri Kambas
So you get a few species, to name some:

Pamphobeteus sp. Goliath
Pamphobeteus platyomma (Brazilian Pink Bloom)
Avicularia sp 'Peru'

So all the above are not described, where do they belong? Especially the Pamphobeteus platyomma (Brazilian Pink Bloom) ?

I currently keep them in their respective Genus but should i create a new Category called undescribed and put them all in there?

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14 years 1 month ago - 14 years 1 month ago #57767 by That Cossor guy
I think it is better to just leave them in their respective genera as a "sp. whatever" rather than lump a load of undescribed spiders of varying genera into the same category.



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Last edit: 14 years 1 month ago by That Cossor guy.

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14 years 1 month ago #57768 by Dave Dawson
I agree with what you saying Charlie. But how long do we have wait to see a undescribed species become
a describes species? How long until until P. spec machalla or P. spec platyomma become a describe
species? :angel:

My Advice is mostly from my personal experience, but everyone is
allowed to give there own opinion.

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14 years 1 month ago #57770 by Dimitri Kambas
What is the reason they cant describe them? Do they need specific scientific research that they dont have at the moment?

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14 years 1 month ago #57774 by Ceratogyrus
Replied by Ceratogyrus on topic Re: How long till a "sp" becomes described?

Dimitri wrote: What is the reason they cant describe them? Do they need specific scientific research that they dont have at the moment?


Someone will have to go look at the spiders description and type specimen (Or all the species in the genera) and then have a look at the "new species" and decide if it fits into any of the other species. Plenty hours of research and work, for probably little or no pay.

You could describe the species if you like, would just have to get hold of all the type specimens and study them and compare. :)

Basically it comes down to man hours and some cash to travel finding the type specimens as far as Im aware.

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14 years 1 month ago #57781 by That Cossor guy
As Cerat has said if you want to do it properly then at the very least you will have to compare the spider to all the type specimens of that particular genus to make sure it hasn't already been described. You would also want to know the actual locality of the spider as with most hobby spiders you will quite often get wrong collection data or just a country of origin at best. This all costs time and money to do and taxonomists are generally not paid for their work so it will come out of their own pocket and spare time. Then once they have written the description it should be peer reviewed before being published.
Of course there is nothing stopping you from ignoring all this and just reading a few description papers relating to the specific genera then knocking out your own gash description in an obscure hobby magazine published by you and your mate *cough*Schmidt*cough* giving the locality as Brazil or Mexico etc.



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