What is better for the hobby and for the T's, a rare T in the hands of a n00b learning by trial and error or a rare T in the hands of an experienced breeder with a much higher chance of success?

jouda wrote: What is better for the hobby and for the T's, a rare T in the hands of a n00b learning by trial and error or a rare T in the hands of an experienced breeder with a much higher chance of success?

Either. You can have a noob with such dedication that will know when to save his male (and definitely read the signs when the female is receptive to him) or you can have a so-called experienced breeder that is so NAFI and think that nothing can happen.

That's not the point .

I will spell it out again!

B.smithi was almost impossible to find... every 2nd noob wanted smithi's and bred with them, now they are worth nothing and almost unwanted. Like Chromatoplema cyaneopubescens, they are currently the latest target for breeding, I know because I just bred them and had to really phone around to find anyone willing to buy them. A year ago, I couldn't even get my hands on slings!

If every 2nd noob now decides that they only want to buy and breed the rare and expensive stuff so they can line their pockets... how long do you think it will be before most rare T's are also in over supply and worth nothing. It removes all the value and mystery from the hobby, there is nothing to aspire to, nothing to work towards. But who cares right? The money has already been made.

There is no denying it, to breed is to make money, and we all love and/or need money, but this trend is going to Milk this cow/hobby to death. Even I look forward o the day where P.metallica are a couple of bucks to buy and own, but there are people who really invest their time and efforts to keep this hobby reputable and genuinely love Tarantulas. They are the same ones left to pick up the pieces when all these Maverick breeders are long gone. These are the people with real knowledge and experience, the same poor saps that try and grow the hobby and help every newbie who joins the hobby - so that Mavericks have a nice big market to sell to every time they want quick cash.

Please RAISE YOUR VOICES if I'm wrong... I have seen plenty of people join this site over the last 4 years, drop big bucks on expensive T's to breed them, NOT ONE OF THEM IS STILL ON THIS FORUM. They pop in from time to time, but that's it.

I've said my bit, I don't think it's right, I don't think it's fair. But life aint fair, and these days, doing the right thing, is like paying your TV license, it just doesn't happen.

I'm done.

Linn Currie wrote:

jouda wrote: What is better for the hobby and for the T's, a rare T in the hands of a n00b learning by trial and error or a rare T in the hands of an experienced breeder with a much higher chance of success?

Either. You can have a noob with such dedication that will know when to save his male (and definitely read the signs when the female is receptive to him) or you can have a so-called experienced breeder that is so NAFI and think that nothing can happen.

or the experienced breeder knows when and how to save his male (since he would like to breed with him again), know how to care for the female after insertion and know how to care for the slings.... This scenario is much more likely to be true methinks

Jouda ... potato, potato )

Geniet die naweek
Linn

HeteroScuderia wrote: I'm done.

Danny, at least answer my question about when a noob is no longer a noob. I truly want to know what the criteria is.

Groete
Linn