Civility. The world can do with more of it. I agree.

I really like being "around" "old hands".

But after recent posts by Ray, I finally understand why they "strip" themselves and never return.

That is what hurts this forum. The old hands keep it going.

Sad day indeed.

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@Ruan. Man you make me LOL.

One day when I go to PTA area again I would like to meet you.

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A braai sounds lekker. See you there

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Ok so after the latest fiasco, from now on this forum will have the following policy, if you break the forum rules, the first time will be a 1 week ban, the 2nd time a 1 month ban and if you transgress for a 3rd time it will be a final permanent ban.
This way nobody can complain that they didn't know or whatever.....
And as I said previously, this time I don't give a hoot who it is, if it's permanent, it will be final wether you're a 'noob' or an 'old experienced hand'!!!

Well said Taki. This forum is a nice learning site for all and of we respect each other equally as friends interested in the hobby and put differences aside and be civil we can all learn and make this forum fun like it was before all the petty arguing started and here I include myself to blame. So to those I might have called a PLANK or anything to that effect sorry and lets move forward on a positive point!!!'


Ray-Nature Conservator