@onyx.
I am pretty sure Avics are affected by natural hybridization. If all the species are even seperate species?

Onyx wrote: ... and think about this Avics are very fragile and die of things like "Avic sudden death syndrome" Its genetics gone wrong and cross breeding that failed. The result is an amazing T that may look awesome but dies for no reason.

Would love to see the literature to prove that cross breeding causes SADS (If there even is something like that - cause lots of people have kept them with no hassles).

Thank you. I am sorry for this. If you can understand this, if we like things as they are now, we will still live in wood house and mud pot. Someone go on the moon, they are not with good luck the first time, but now we have satellite to see World Cups.

We are breeding because nature is the same. Spiders walk to other spiders and make new spiders. Is not otherwise in my home. I can not say many words here because I am not strong on English, sorry. My message is to be responsible in your hobby and in your life and you will have many friends with respect to you. You can break this quickly, so be wise and control yourself. Thank you.

Wow 666, many cocks hey? I know a few people that would love to try that.

What will you call your P.Subfusca mixed with P.Regalis? Pokhimlolverymuch Subgalis? Pokhimlolverymuch Regusca?

Croatia sounds like a very interesting place, maybe they should cross wolves with P.regalis then you have guard dog that can chase criminal into tree or drain pipe.

rofl...

P rapoeska... Sounds kind of Russian... :laugh:

Would love to see the literature to prove that cross breeding causes SADS (If there even is something like that - cause lots of people have kept them with no hassles).

Lol and I would love to see the literature that disproves it And yes SADS has been documented by a lot of owners and breeders world wide Avics die after a molt for no reason. Could me temp could be humidity what ever . The cause of death is unknown yes I agree. And I cant state that it is because of cross breeding but to exclude the possibility that a weaker species was created is stupid.

Like I said everyone has there own opinions about this. All im saying is that if every Jo decides to cross breed there T's to see what would happen we would have a serious problem on our hands. Like I said I would love new species.... hell who wouldn't? but caution is to be taken.

Onyx wrote: Avics are very fragile and die of things like "Avic sudden death syndrome" Its genetics gone wrong and cross breeding that failed. The result is an amazing T that may look awesome but dies for no reason.

Onyx wrote: The cause of death is unknown yes I agree. And I cant state that it is because of cross breeding

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Onyx wrote: Lol and I would love to see the literature that disproves it And yes SADS has been documented by a lot of owners and breeders world wide Avics die after a molt for no reason. Could me temp could be humidity what ever . The cause of death is unknown yes I agree.

Spiders die all the time for no reason. Avics are harder to keep than certain other species because they require better humidity and ventilation compared to other species. Lots of them are also imported and it is harder for them to adjust to new climates. Its in your court to prove a theory before I have to disprove it.

Atleast we can agree on 1 thing. People can cross breed as much as they like as long as its done responsibly.