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14 years 2 months ago #55910 by Pang Hao

Ceratogyrus wrote: Ventilation and humidity are not that important.
Here is a picture of my setup of my Avic avic. One vent on the roof, no misting and no waterbowl. They get misted once every few months.



Hi Ceratogyrus:

How old of your Avic avic? Your glass box jus only one vent. Enough?

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14 years 2 months ago #55911 by Pang Hao

Ko7Ad wrote: Just for intrest sake,

What is each of your locations, height above sea level? Even if you keep your reletive humidity at 80% in Joburg, its not the same as 80% on the coast. This is due to air pressure, lower air pressure contains less water vapor per volume air than high even at the same % as the molucules are further apart. This could be a diffrence of up to ~20% in humidity. This is not even talking about the possible physical effects airpressure has on the joints of T's.

This is just something I have been looking into and ponder about some nights.. hehehe


Hehe~ some words i need google to support.

I live in Suzhou in China. some times temperature and humidity are maintained by the device. I think Suzhou temperature and humidity okay. Thank you for analysis.

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14 years 2 months ago - 14 years 2 months ago #55927 by Stanley A. Schultz

ciena6618 wrote: ... so, who can give me a hand about this case. Mortality is about 20% of laeval, really?


Although there are those who will disagree, I have found that the genus Avicularia experiences inordinately higher losses immediately after shipping, and especially if they are babies. And, A. versicolor (a.k.a., Martinique treespider, Antilles pinktoe) has a reputation for being even more fragile than the others.

This is a curious thing to me. If I breed an Avicularia, the babies refuse to die! If I didn't sell them, in a year or two I'd end up with dozens of them in my spider room. And, if I did sell them, my customers experienced almost no loses whatsoever. But, if I ordered in babies from Miami or Chicago, and they had to be transported by airline, my losses were similar to what you note. Apparently they get "beat up" by their handling by the airlines, and that plus improper care when they first arrive accounts for the high losses.

So, I have developed the hypothesis that Avicularia cannot tolerate long distance shipping as well as other tarantulas. And, once you get them into your care, and they have a chance to recover, they do just fine. But, most pet shops don't do that. They unpack the shipping boxes and immediately put the baby tarantulas on display and for sale. And, the unsuspecting enthusiast buys them the next day for fear that they will be sold out in a week. And, then we hear that they lost a baby Avicularia.

So now I am telling people, when they buy a baby Avicularia from a pet shop, to make sure the substrate in the container is slightly damp, and then place the container somewhere in the home where it's kept at "room" temperature or slightly higher for two or three days. (Perhaps in the neighborhood of 25° C to 30° C, 77° F to 86° F.) Since most baby tarantulas are shipped in the containers that they have been living in for the past several months, there is seldom any reason to change them to larger or different quarters for some time after receiving them. So, don't change their container right away. Give them a chance to recover from the shipping first.

If you're buying tarantulas beyond the "baby" stage, they're usually shipped in other containers that are not suitable for long term care. These must be moved to more appropriate containers as soon as they arrive. First, it might help to move them into an ICU for two or three days. In the meantime you can be busy setting up their permanent cages.

After only a few days in an ICU, you can move your Avicularia into its new, permanent home. But, make sure that the relative humidity is still quite high by blocking off almost all the ventilation at first. But (and this is the important part), everyday remove a little more of the cage covering to allow slightly more ventilation. This should take perhaps two weeks. This allows the Avicularia several weeks to gradually get over the shipping and adjust from life in a tropical forest to life in an artificial cage.

While this will not prevent all deaths (if they were beat up too badly, there is nothing you can do to save them), it should reduce the mortality rate a lot.

Just a further note: Since English is a second or even third language for you, if you cannot understand what I said here, or you need clarification on some points, don't be afraid to come back and ask. (Congratulations! Your English is far, FAR better than my Chinese.)

Enjoy your beautiful, little, 8-legged jewels!

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14 years 2 months ago #55928 by Darren
Deaths happen when people play around and worry to much about temperature and humidity, fiddling with the tarantulas environment to much.... this will kill your spider... nature fluctuates all the time its never constant like all this rubbish on the internet, 80% humidity and 26` all the time.... show me a natural environment that does this????

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14 years 2 months ago #55930 by Stanley A. Schultz

spinnerkop wrote: Deaths happen when people play around and worry to much about temperature and humidity, fiddling with the tarantulas environment to much.... this will kill your spider... nature fluctuates all the time its never constant like all this rubbish on the internet, 80% humidity and 26` all the time...


I cannot agree with you more, at least in the long, steady state. But there are times...

spinnerkop wrote: ... show me a natural environment that does this????


www.tarantulas.co.za/forum/tarantula-gen...cave-tarantula#55576

(Sorry. I couldn't help myself.)

:laugh:

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14 years 2 months ago - 14 years 2 months ago #55940 by Darren
lol hmmmm not really true, caves do fluctuate in temp and humidity, but way less than the above world.... :whistle: :starwars:

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