I love hybrids, they fascinate me. I unfortunately lost my theraphosa hybrid due to a wet molt.
She was completely soaked halfway thru her molt. Very sad but they hobby can be very exciting
but also very cruel and heartbreaking. sad I will never neglect a Hybrid at all, infact
im so keen on doing a few hybrid mating for my own personal gain and in the name of science.

Iv have my theraphosa Strimi walk around his enclosurre at night and start tapping at all the other
females around him, resulting in my one Blondi female and my one Apophysis female tap back at him.
All 3 species of Theraphosa interacting with each other. And thats happened a few times.

:spider:

@ Dave, you are right, but you cant tell me that there isn't a problem with Lasiodora in SA.

Also, regarding hybridising for personal gain. I understand the interest in hybrids, I really do. the only problem i see here is what the heck are we to do 100+ hybrids? 3 or 4 hybrids, sure! keep them, observe them, eat them for dinner if you like. but do you really have space and time for over 100 hybrid tarantulas from a single female?

Another problem that arises is what if we do decide to sell/give away a few hybrids to willing, interested hobbyists? are you going to trust that that specimen will NEVER, at all costs be mated? you cant guarantee it. all it takes is for one of those hybrids to be successfully mated for the entire genus to get completely screwed.

Just a thought, but this is always going to be a touchy subject and we need to tread lightly and with EXTREME caution when it comes to hybrids.
you wouldn't want what has happened to the Lasiodora's to happen to the Pampho's would you? they all look the same already

I know there is a problem with lasiodora, I know a member that took an unidentified lasiodora and mated
is female Klugi and his female Lasiodora difficilis, got a egg sac from both and sold them all. And lasiodora
only have a few babies, so he didnt put toooooo many hybrids in the hobby :whistle:

Regarding my own personal gain, i would never give a hybrid if i was lucky enough to get a sac, to anyone I dont know
and trust with my life. In the same breath, its not like im going to go and try hybrize a spider that common. In my
own little spider world, Ill like to hybrize spiders that are rare and interesting, as it is Theraphosa is hard enough to
get a sac. With pamps, alot are hybrized anyway( well your more common ones are) and if there is a hybrized
sac from any of my spiders, they only drop between 20-60 babies with a pure sac, a hybrized sac will
be maybe 20 or even less. The only hybrized sac iv seen from Theraphosa, a total of 2 babies survived from
the 30 rotten eggs :igiveup:

If i wanted to be irresponsible, i would hybrize spiders such as, brachypelma, phormictopus, poecilotheria and other
more common, easily breed species.

Dave wrote: If i wanted to be irresponsible, i would hybrize spiders such as, brachypelma, phormictopus, poecilotheria and other more common, easily breed species.

I don't completely agree with you, especially on pokies. I have a couple of pokie crosses and from what i can see is that you can tell them apart from other pure blood pokies.

In my opinion they are the best species to hybridise because of the colour and pattern differences between the species. with this it is much easier to see the result of hybridization and to identify hybrids.

Hybridizing something like lasiodora will only result in a big mess. Because it is already difficult to tell some of the species apart from each other before hybridization.

The same might be true with Theraposa's.... only time will tell I'm guessing :whistle:

But I guess you will keep us informed if you ever have success. Shame your big cross female died sad

I hear what you saying Creator, what i mean is that its not uncommon for pokies to hybridize.

Iv heard of more pokie hybrids than most spiders, (well that im aware of). Some like you
would be able to tell the difference in a hybrid Pokie because of your experience and expertise
on the species, the same will go for me with Theraphosa and Pamphos.

Lasiodora in general is a mess up anyway. Thats why i stay away from them, even thou i am
very impressed with there size and eating habits.

Yea, my thereaphosa (stirmi/blondi) died. She molted upright and had a wet molt. sad

Ill just have to make a new one and of course keep any extras to myself, oh dam what
a curse to have theraphosa hybrids all to myself, dam this unfair hobby. :angel: :igiveup:

Mite I add. he hybrids in this country is because of irresponsible idiots, but a mistake that can be easily made aswell.

When I refer to a hybrid, im going to do the extreme to make it clearly visible that this spider has to
completely different types of parents.

Use your imagination for a second and consider the out comes of hybrids such as

P. Metallica/ Miranda

P. Ultramurinus/ Platyomma

G. Rosea/Pulchra

A. Seemani/Biocolouratum

B. Shroederi/ Emilia

T. Apophysis/Blondi

Thats just an idea of the extreme i will go. kungfu